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and tom foreman who attended friday's nra event. tom, what was it like being at this nra event? i won't call it a press conference. are you surprised that not a single journalist got to ask a question? >> it was not a press conference. all of us expected to exchange questions and answers with wayne lapierre and the president of nra who was there. it didn't happen at all. it did not happen but adamantly did not happen. several of us tried to call out questions to the participants and even at one point i said to them, would you answer even one question? are you willing to talk to the white house about any of this, even to that, they just kept walking. that was a big disappointment and sort of set the tone for the room. >> when wayne lapierre said falsehoods about semiautomatic weapons and the media are demonizing gun owners, is he right? >> no. but even before that what he got was a priceless gift of 25 minutes of free media from those news organizations that elected to carry it live. and i bet they were rather disappointed when they learned, as you just said, tom, that there woul
and tom foreman who attended friday's nra event. tom, what was it like being at this nra event? i won't call it a press conference. are you surprised that not a single journalist got to ask a question? >> it was not a press conference. all of us expected to exchange questions and answers with wayne lapierre and the president of nra who was there. it didn't happen at all. it did not happen but adamantly did not happen. several of us tried to call out questions to the participants and even...
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even nra members, 74% of nra members and 89% of all gun owners want background checks before anybody can get a gun, so the men and women in congress have to stiffen their backs, not be afraid of the organization the nra, because the members of the nra are better than the organization, and it's time for us to act finally once and for all. >> howard, your boss, mayor michael bloomberg, has been leading the charge on gun control throughout the year. he was on "meet the press" yesterday and had strong words calling on the president to exhibit leadership on the issue. i think there is a sense nationally that this time is different. we just talked to chris jansing on the ground in newtown, but that there is -- that i think for folks who have wanted to see reform on our nation's gun laws, that this could be an inflexion point. does the mayor share that feeling? >> he hopes so. you know, i may be alone in this, but i am just no longer comforted by comforting words. i feel like as the governor said, you know, we've become very good at doing these memorials after these events and then nothing
even nra members, 74% of nra members and 89% of all gun owners want background checks before anybody can get a gun, so the men and women in congress have to stiffen their backs, not be afraid of the organization the nra, because the members of the nra are better than the organization, and it's time for us to act finally once and for all. >> howard, your boss, mayor michael bloomberg, has been leading the charge on gun control throughout the year. he was on "meet the press"...
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biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the answer, more guns. everywhere. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors. at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left as sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> for some, too many guns are never, ever enough. let's get right to our panel now. with me in new york is richard wolffe who's the v.p. and executive editor on msnbc.com and ari melber. there was almost the acknowledgment that this wild use of assau
biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the...
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what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pierre is the chief executive officer. he is the public face of the national rifle association. going on nbc's "meet the press" this morning, he made the point again and again that he made back on friday at that press conference. that his organization will oppose legislation at adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or the sale of those high capacity ammunition magazines, and he had a lot to say again about who he thinks is to blame. have a listen. >> look, i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment industry in this town. i know there are political -- for 20 years they always try to say it's because americans own guns. i'm telling you what i think will make people safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off at school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy, that if some horrible
what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pierre is the chief executive officer. he is the public face of the national rifle association. going on nbc's "meet the press" this morning, he made the point again and again that he made back on friday at that press conference. that his organization will oppose legislation at adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or the sale of those high capacity ammunition magazines, and he had a lot...
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nra may have fired up its base. but the nra did nothing to help its cause here on capitol hill. quite the opposite. what we've heard from lawmakers today in the wake of that wasn't even a press conference he didn't take questions. in the wake of that statement that wayne lapierre made was that the impetus now -- they almost have fresh momentum. we heard diane feinstein one of the principal authors of gun legislation that has new life now. she says it doesn't matter how long it takes it may take a year, two years, three years, the conventional wisdom is after the horror from newtown dies down somewhat, after the outrage and anger has subside, congress doesn't get down to case until february after the inauguration, after the state of the union. she says they will not knuckle under they will keep at it. she's talking about buy back legislation, buy back of gun legislation. these talking about strengthening the federal firearms act, closing those loopholes for registration for background checks. bill clinton called her offering to do whatever he could to provide more impetus to push
nra may have fired up its base. but the nra did nothing to help its cause here on capitol hill. quite the opposite. what we've heard from lawmakers today in the wake of that wasn't even a press conference he didn't take questions. in the wake of that statement that wayne lapierre made was that the impetus now -- they almost have fresh momentum. we heard diane feinstein one of the principal authors of gun legislation that has new life now. she says it doesn't matter how long it takes it may take...
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i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the fbi's record-keeping pertaining to those who have a mental illness or -- >> listen, michael. >> real quick. >> this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they're opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns to each other privately, not through gun stores. so it doesn't matter. >> i was shocked by that. i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. stick around with me for side show and if y
i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago they didn't have the power they once did in a presidential election. >> i'll give you a good example. i'm not the kind of person to sit back and say, you know, the world is getting worse for my kids, and i'm gone, i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i'm going to do everything while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids but also for society. and take a look. one of the things i decided to do in the last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california, one of the democrats that you supported? >> we won four out of seven -- four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful. you go back to what happened back when the democrats lost after
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago they didn't have the power they once did in a presidential election. >> i'll give you a good example. i'm not the kind of person to sit back and say, you know, the world is getting worse for my kids, and i'm gone, i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i'm going to do everything while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids but also for society. and take a look. one of the things i...
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prosecutor lead an nra effort for that program. look, this was not a press conference because will pierre refused to take questions from the assembled reporters. he was interrupted twice by protesters criticizing the nra and advocating -- >> there's a petitioned on the white house website calling for more semiautomatic gun control. >> i will do everything in my power as president to advance these efforts because if there's even one thing we can do as a country to protect our children, we have a responsibility to try it. >> that statement builds on the president's call for congressional action early next year. >> i will be putting forward very specific proposals. i will be talking about them in my state of the union and we will be working with interested members of congress to try and get something done. >> vice president joe biden is leading the push to draft those proposals, and yesterday he began that effort, meeting with law enforcement officials and cabinet members. i want to go right to you, michael eric dyson. you saw as much
prosecutor lead an nra effort for that program. look, this was not a press conference because will pierre refused to take questions from the assembled reporters. he was interrupted twice by protesters criticizing the nra and advocating -- >> there's a petitioned on the white house website calling for more semiautomatic gun control. >> i will do everything in my power as president to advance these efforts because if there's even one thing we can do as a country to protect our...
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i'm not happy with the nra, i'm not happy with the nra and i'm a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns, but i do not have a 30 round clip and a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here and we have to address it. they are not addressing it. that is what i tell them. you are not addressing the situation here. >>. >> reporter: at a shooting range in california, others supported the nra. >> the only way to fight fire is with fire. so, if you have somebody that is armed and you are not, you are part of the problem, you are not part of the solution. >> i think it's a good idea. but you are going to have to train these people on how to use weapons. because once you start shooting inside of a classroom, someone will get hurt. the thing is not to let the intruder go into the classroom. >> reporter: how many armed guards to you need? every room, every door? the nra did not take questions after making the statement. don? >> thank you very much. lots more to
i'm not happy with the nra, i'm not happy with the nra and i'm a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns, but i do not have a 30 round clip and a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here and we have to address it. they are not addressing it. that is what i tell them. you are not addressing the situation here. >>. >> reporter: at a shooting range in...
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his number one target the nra. >> what would you like the nra to know? >> that i think the public has finally come to the conclusion we are going to do the this whether you like it or not and connecticut is because of some of their actions. >> you hold them responsibility. >> i hold you and me responsibility. we didn't pay attention to what our legislators were doing. we have let our society, our country degenerate to the point where we have a murder rate that you cannot compare it to other countries. you can't put it on the same scale. >> the nra believes that it is working in the best interest of the american people. >> i don't know. they are not supposed to do that. they are supposed to work in the best interest of gun owners. they don't have a responsibility for the american people. they are paid for by the gun owners. there's nothing wrong with that. it is the rest of us that cave in to them that are irresponsible. >> a lot of people will be surprised to know fur on the no fly list, you can't fly but you can buy a gun. >> absolutely. >> he says for
his number one target the nra. >> what would you like the nra to know? >> that i think the public has finally come to the conclusion we are going to do the this whether you like it or not and connecticut is because of some of their actions. >> you hold them responsibility. >> i hold you and me responsibility. we didn't pay attention to what our legislators were doing. we have let our society, our country degenerate to the point where we have a murder rate that you cannot...
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the nra plan coming on the heels of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. the deadliest mass shooting in a grade school in american history where the gunman armed with semi-automatic rifles made his way into the school with handguns as well. he killed 20 children and six adults before turning the gun on himself. peter doocy is live in washington with the latest on the question of guns and guards in is schools. >> the consultant leading the nra's effort to secure the schools is asa hutchinson, a former republican congressman from arkansas who said he didn't think new laws and prohibition is the right way to respond to what happened in sandy hook and compared the nra plan to put a trained guard in every american school to the federal air marshal program put in place after 9/11. >> more sensitive that be airplanes. people resisted having weapons on airplanes but i oversaw the federal air marshals and it's a deterrent, no one sees that weapon but they're protected on the airplane and it's a positive impact on safety. schools are a sensitive environment as well.
the nra plan coming on the heels of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. the deadliest mass shooting in a grade school in american history where the gunman armed with semi-automatic rifles made his way into the school with handguns as well. he killed 20 children and six adults before turning the gun on himself. peter doocy is live in washington with the latest on the question of guns and guards in is schools. >> the consultant leading the nra's effort to secure the schools is asa...
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we need each other, whether you support gun control, or the nra who should bring good ideas to citizens. we can protect the constitution, but we also have to protect our people. >> in annapolis, gov. martin o'malley says he supports looking into the gun issue, especially when it comes to safety. >> i do not have a bill to present to you. it is still very much a work in progress. it is work that i would guess that every state in the union as undertaking. >> we call several gun stores that declined on-camera interviews, but did tell 11 news that guns are moving off the shelves at record rates. we were referred to a news release that read in part upon what we call it -- we find it callous and disrespectful that certain politicians and gun control advocates are so focused on their political agenda that they could not find it in their hearts to refrain from publicly exploiting this heartbreaking tragedy until after the victims had been returned to their families and loved ones." and the democratic senator from the murray townie announced what he is calling an anti--- montgomery county announ
we need each other, whether you support gun control, or the nra who should bring good ideas to citizens. we can protect the constitution, but we also have to protect our people. >> in annapolis, gov. martin o'malley says he supports looking into the gun issue, especially when it comes to safety. >> i do not have a bill to present to you. it is still very much a work in progress. it is work that i would guess that every state in the union as undertaking. >> we call several gun...
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we had a poll of nra members and gun owners and what we found was surprising. 74% of nra members thinks everybody who wants to buy a gun should have a background chick. 71% of nra members think if you are on a terror watch list you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. there's a broad and durable consensus about common sense things you can do and the nra members agree. it's the nra leadership that has a problem with it. >> goldie, you were just referencing these assault weapons, but even if an assault weapons ban was re-enacted, what about all those firearms that are already in circulation? how do we resolve the existing presence of lethal weapons in america today? >> you know, the last ban on assault weapons was riddled, literally riddled, with loopholes, including grandfathering in the right to keep the assault rifle that you already had in your possession. i am against that loophole. i am against, you know, the kinds of loopholes that allow gun shows to sell guns without proper identification to private buyers. you know, i think that we have got to look at reasonable, sensible laws that ke
we had a poll of nra members and gun owners and what we found was surprising. 74% of nra members thinks everybody who wants to buy a gun should have a background chick. 71% of nra members think if you are on a terror watch list you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. there's a broad and durable consensus about common sense things you can do and the nra members agree. it's the nra leadership that has a problem with it. >> goldie, you were just referencing these assault weapons, but even if an...
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you are somebody who the nra has given an a rating to. and what specific solutions are you able to put on the table to prevent this from happening again. >> what i have said is that pro-gun people should not be afraid to have this discussion and put all of the facts on the table and see what could be done to prevent it. how do we keep guns out of the hands of mentally unbalanced people appears to be a huge challenge in our society, because it gets in to privacy and freedom issues, and so forth, but putting this on the table, talking about the mental health part and what cultural influences might send people off in a direction like this, would be a very good process. we want to prevent things like this from happening, and the best way to do that is to consider all of the angles. what is it in our culture that is limiting it's a to this. >> jennifer: would you be in favor of closing the gun show loophole that prevents people who may be mentally ill from having a background check? >> yes, and on a state level there a are things that states c
you are somebody who the nra has given an a rating to. and what specific solutions are you able to put on the table to prevent this from happening again. >> what i have said is that pro-gun people should not be afraid to have this discussion and put all of the facts on the table and see what could be done to prevent it. how do we keep guns out of the hands of mentally unbalanced people appears to be a huge challenge in our society, because it gets in to privacy and freedom issues, and so...
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the nra spends about 66 times as much on lobbying as the brady campaign. and they spent during the campaign contributing to candidates 4100 times as much as the brady campaign. this has now become a one-sided discussion, and america deserves a discussion. >> this has been a tipping point. i think it was so grotesque, coming on the back of aurora, which in itself was horrifying beyond belief, a movie theater, now elementary school children. barack obama after being reelected, he has to think of a legacy now. does he want his legacy to be a series of further mass shootings in which he did nothing. because there are going to be more mass shootings. there have been four already in the last four years of increasing appalling detail. there is going to be worse. >> i think that you're right in the sense that every cause has an inflection point. and this may be the inflection point for the cause of people who want to at least see a reinstatement of the assault weapons ban. but i think that what we have to do as a society, and what i hope the president will be prep
the nra spends about 66 times as much on lobbying as the brady campaign. and they spent during the campaign contributing to candidates 4100 times as much as the brady campaign. this has now become a one-sided discussion, and america deserves a discussion. >> this has been a tipping point. i think it was so grotesque, coming on the back of aurora, which in itself was horrifying beyond belief, a movie theater, now elementary school children. barack obama after being reelected, he has to...
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. >> the nra breaking its silence. the powerful gun lobby will hold a major news conference to announce the actions it plans to take in the wake of the elementary school tragedy. the national rifle association breaking that silence for the first time yesterday saying it was prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again. the gun rights organization and gun rights advocates in congress both under public pressure to join the call for action. >> just wonder -- this long after a mass killing like that, little 6 and 7-year-olds, there is not a single republican in america, in elected office, not going to step up and say something? >> i think that says something in itself. >> i think it is time to talk, guys. one way or the other, where do you stand on this issue? >> joining me this morning is connecticut congressman joe courtney. good to have you here. the president is speaking in 45 minutes from now to announce this new interagency task force on gun control. he's not expected to announce an
. >> the nra breaking its silence. the powerful gun lobby will hold a major news conference to announce the actions it plans to take in the wake of the elementary school tragedy. the national rifle association breaking that silence for the first time yesterday saying it was prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again. the gun rights organization and gun rights advocates in congress both under public pressure to join the call for action. >> just...
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nra is -- >> greg: no, no. they are talking about the officers which is why the crime dropped in new york city schools they have a school safety program with police officers there. >> greg: i'm not sure that it follows the same program or pattern as new york. >> bob: not like new york. you come back to chicago but these are gang-drug related wars in chicago. >> kimberly: so is it okay? he is not doing a good job. >> bob: it's the drug wars. >> eric: so are you saying don't arm them? telling us how great it is in new york. >> bob: i agree with andrea. the local should make a decision. if they think there is a rough school. >> eric: it should be done at local level but we don't need rahm emanuel saying it shouldn't happen or david gregory giving lapierre a hard time when his kids go to school with 11 armed guards. and the people we pet up yesterday with those who own handguns? do you know you have ten times more likely chance of being, of violent crime happening to you in new york city where there is no concealed
nra is -- >> greg: no, no. they are talking about the officers which is why the crime dropped in new york city schools they have a school safety program with police officers there. >> greg: i'm not sure that it follows the same program or pattern as new york. >> bob: not like new york. you come back to chicago but these are gang-drug related wars in chicago. >> kimberly: so is it okay? he is not doing a good job. >> bob: it's the drug wars. >> eric: so are...
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the nra embarrassed itself. as michael said they had an opportunity today to change the national image of the nra. if they said, look, no american gun owner, no hunter needs a high capacity magazine with more than ten bullets and a clip, we're for that ban. our members, frank luntz, fox news frank luntz poll 47% of our members said no one should get a gun without a background check. we're endorsing a federal ban on gun shows selling guns without background checks. federal ban on internet sales. they could have taken a real step towards enhancing their credibility. they embarrassed himself. learning apierr emp pm-- lapier resign. the republicans have a choice. break with the nra or have every suburban american that looks like this and says this guy is nuts. if you look at this statement you have to think this guy is whacked. that's a danger for the republicans to align themselves with. >> i know you don't mean this in a flip callous way but your reaction is similar to other people who are not anti-gun, they are a
the nra embarrassed itself. as michael said they had an opportunity today to change the national image of the nra. if they said, look, no american gun owner, no hunter needs a high capacity magazine with more than ten bullets and a clip, we're for that ban. our members, frank luntz, fox news frank luntz poll 47% of our members said no one should get a gun without a background check. we're endorsing a federal ban on gun shows selling guns without background checks. federal ban on internet sales....
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this is what was airing on the nra webcast. that was very different from the statement that they released. let me play what happened. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-guns. listen to the survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left and adam landry knew what he wanted to do. >> that was the webcast saying that the gun-free zones are not the answer. you would want guns in school zones. michael, is that different than the statement of meaningful contributions that the nra said they are ready to discuss? >> we are going to find out on friday. that's when they have a pressure in washington and come forth with whatever their contributions might be. i think the nra will make a gross calculation if they maintain that line in the sand and that position of never giving an inch. one practical consideration in my home, we have four kids. the gifts are wrapped. this won't be a holiday season where we get into christmas and forget. for parents it's going to accentuate the recogn
this is what was airing on the nra webcast. that was very different from the statement that they released. let me play what happened. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-guns. listen to the survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left and adam landry knew what he wanted to do. >> that was the webcast saying that the gun-free zones are not the answer. you would want guns in school zones. michael, is that different than the...
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the nra rick rolled the whole country. they promised us something that sounded new, something that sounded meaningful, something you thought maybe this time would be a change, it would be worth tuning in for. something you hadn't heard before from this very important group, right? but then you tuned in, you clicked, and what you got is something that they have always done, and that you have heard many, many times before. >> there exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people. through vicious, violent video games. i mean, we have blood-soaked films out there. a thousand music videos, and you all know this, portray life as a joke. and they play murder, portray murder as a way of life. and throughout it all, to many in the national media, their corporate owners and their stockholders act as conspirators. >> music, video games, videos, at one point he blamed hurricanes for whatever is the bad thing that happens next. but definitely not guns
the nra rick rolled the whole country. they promised us something that sounded new, something that sounded meaningful, something you thought maybe this time would be a change, it would be worth tuning in for. something you hadn't heard before from this very important group, right? but then you tuned in, you clicked, and what you got is something that they have always done, and that you have heard many, many times before. >> there exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and...
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made an endorsement, the nra has virtually no impact on congressional elections. the nra endorsement so coveted by so many politicians is almost meaningless, nor does the money that the organization spend have deden straightible impact on the out ofoutcome of races. joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be ignored or defeated without great consequences for the elected representative but it's the fear that the rival will get an extra benefit, a little bit more money, maybe an angry constituency will turn against you, that causes i think elected representatives to pay too much attention to single issue lobbyist and the system is set up that they expect that there will always be somebody on the other side. and lobbyists only thrive when there aren't strong voices on the other side. >> eliot: what we're saying is complacency and cowardace. congressmen bow and bend over and are afraid t
made an endorsement, the nra has virtually no impact on congressional elections. the nra endorsement so coveted by so many politicians is almost meaningless, nor does the money that the organization spend have deden straightible impact on the out ofoutcome of races. joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be...
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he has b-plus rating with the nra. what does he do? is he for whatever the steps are to move forward on gun control? that could be a problem for him in 2016. on the other hand, if he says with the nra, if they don't move, if there is no move fire department them and he stays with them and builds up his nra rating for the primary, of 2016, given he may be running for president, that may help him in primary. but with this environment, it could hurt him in the general election. that is not just him. a lot of the members. you are a senator from virginia, mark warner. are you going to step up, lead on gun control initiative again? here is somebody will do it. mansion from west virginia. a guy who used a gun in his ads and shot a senate bill, used it as a target. he is stepping away. it is going to be fascinating. but i think they were able to -- how far can they go and still avoid a primary problem later on? >> karl, they are talking about it being broad. not just gun control. mental health. and cultural issues. like video games and hollywo
he has b-plus rating with the nra. what does he do? is he for whatever the steps are to move forward on gun control? that could be a problem for him in 2016. on the other hand, if he says with the nra, if they don't move, if there is no move fire department them and he stays with them and builds up his nra rating for the primary, of 2016, given he may be running for president, that may help him in primary. but with this environment, it could hurt him in the general election. that is not just...
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when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian. >> yes. >> julian? >> yes. particularly if there is a concerted movement over many months. >> it was a yes or no. it was just a yes or no. >> but there's a key proviseo. there. every time we've done this, the nra counts on the clock. that the public will shift attention over time. the key here is the public todays focused. but that's the key contingency. >> i think the sad reality of the christmas eve incident is that we'll continue to see gun violence. sadly there will continue to be examples that we can point to to try to keep the pressure on.
when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian....
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you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune and they do an excellent job. the police department took a look at our protocol, and said that the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police officer present in the school. these are the same people we call if there is an active shooter event in 911. so instead of waiting the five minutes to get them there, they are present, they are law enforcement, they are professionals, they know how to handle themselves. the nra is using in as an excuse to circumvent the argument on gun control, and that's wrong. that's not what our inte
you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune...
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. >> this is my nra club card. i want to show you my tribute and how outraged i am at the loss of life in newtown. connecticut. this is what i'm going to do with this card. that's it. >> now, while many gun owners agree with the nra stance that retired police officer from michigan that you saw sent cnn a video he made where he cuts up his nra card. don? >> listen, about putting armed guards in school. that has been proposed before. so it's nothing new. and it's good at least they tried to do something. but they took no personal responsibility. and no intro aspects at all. it was disgusting to most americans. is there any evidence at all that putting armed guards in school will protect children? >> i mean, there just doesn't seem to be any evidence of it. certainly senator bloumenthal doesn't think so and we didn't get a chance to ask questions of the nra, because they didn't take questions from reporters. plenty of parents would not be comfortable with certainly having more guns in schools. for example, in the shoo
. >> this is my nra club card. i want to show you my tribute and how outraged i am at the loss of life in newtown. connecticut. this is what i'm going to do with this card. that's it. >> now, while many gun owners agree with the nra stance that retired police officer from michigan that you saw sent cnn a video he made where he cuts up his nra card. don? >> listen, about putting armed guards in school. that has been proposed before. so it's nothing new. and it's good at least...
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about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the violence. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for an action.
about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the violence. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every...
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the nra can't -- they can't say anything now. they can't -- you know, they can't whisper a word without getting slammed by anybody. you so, the politicians, too, nobody is going to say anything that doesn't fit with the sentiment of the country right now. that's grieving. >> you know, part of the grieving process has been done on social media now. and i've heard from the people of this community how much it's helped to see tweets that people have sent to them. in some cases, in the case of one of the daughters of victim this morning, she said she's gotten thousands. thousands. there's a dark side, though. connecticut state police are saying they are looking to arrest people who have posted misinformation about the shootings. impersonating the shooter and investigators. it seems unfathomable that one would want to add to the heartache. my question is, how easy for someone to do that and how complicated is it for police to prosecutor that? >> it is unfathomable. it's not understandable. people don't know that impedes the investigat
the nra can't -- they can't say anything now. they can't -- you know, they can't whisper a word without getting slammed by anybody. you so, the politicians, too, nobody is going to say anything that doesn't fit with the sentiment of the country right now. that's grieving. >> you know, part of the grieving process has been done on social media now. and i've heard from the people of this community how much it's helped to see tweets that people have sent to them. in some cases, in the case...
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. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. >> the nra's power is so vastly overrated. >> plus, the fact about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saults on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the vie lensz. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for an action. >> good to have you with us tonight. folks, thanks for watching. almost 24 hours ago, president obama called for a change in this country. now, it's up to all of us to make sure changes come to pass. the community of newtown connecticut is still deeply mourning the lives of 26 people, 20 of them children. the president struck an almost impossible balance of heartfelt emotion and out rage.
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the nra had stopped tweeting. and it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing a script on washington. in,ra memg ber and senator joe manchin now says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as dave weigal points out, the nra habit lost any gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted aye are all gone and al gore's tie breaking aye became a focus of the nra's campaign against him. and just somedays before the slaughter at sandy hook elementary, the nra was actively fear mongering over gun laws. an nra spokesman told the washington examiner on december 5th that the organization was preparing to battle with the president. we're not optimistic. we're planning for the worst. we've told people to plan for gun bans and a supreme court stacked with anti-gun judges. the president has a variety of om options and a disposal we don't take any of them for granted. let's turn to mark glaze.
the nra had stopped tweeting. and it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing a script on washington. in,ra memg ber and senator joe manchin now says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as dave weigal points out, the nra habit lost any gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted aye are all gone and al gore's tie breaking aye became a focus of the nra's...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they don't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> i will give you a good example. i'm not the kind of person to sit back and say, the world is getting worse for my kids. when i'm gone, i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i will do everything i can while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids, but also for society. take a look, one of the things they decided to do in the last election was to support candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra. where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my mother into the other side. >> joe baca in california, a democrat -- >> we won four out of seven. four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those fours and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful, you go back to what happened back when the democrats lost after the assault weapons ban. i don't kn
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they don't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> i will give you a good example. i'm not the kind of person to sit back and say, the world is getting worse for my kids. when i'm gone, i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i will do everything i can while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids, but also for society. take a look, one of the things they decided...
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i'm not happy with the nra. i am not happy with the nra. and i am a gun owner myself. there is just no reason for automatic weapons in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> but of course the question is how many armed garl eed guards need, who would pay for this, would you position these people in every room in the school? all these people are questions we still don't have answers for. miguel? >> they are, indeed, tough and good questions. turning to the investigation, any progress being made to find out information from adam lanza's computer hard drive? >> well, the fbi is still working on that. their facility at quantico, virginia. remember that computer was -- had been destroyed by that -- by the shooter in this case. and so they've been trying to piece together the hard drive. now, we don't have any information about what they're finding, but in the meantime, of course, they're trying to find some kind of digital footprint for this young man. was he sending e-mails to anybody? did he flag his intentions to anyone? for the most part, w
i'm not happy with the nra. i am not happy with the nra. and i am a gun owner myself. there is just no reason for automatic weapons in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> but of course the question is how many armed garl eed guards need, who would pay for this, would you position these people in every room in the school? all these people are questions we still don't have answers for. miguel? >> they are, indeed, tough and good questions. turning to...
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is this just playing up to the nra or a plausible solution? >> it's certain ly not a plausible solution, but the problem is, there are no plausible solutions. there's a guy, a criminalnologist who wrote a great piece about this. the thing with mass shootings, these guys are well prepared. and so, the idea from the right that you're dpoipg going to arm politician official, have them at every school is false and the idea on the left that you're going to eliminate guns, that's also false. you have to look at the gun violence problem more broadly rather than fighting the last war. >> but there is a disconnect in this conversation. the quote from frank lutz. here's what he had to say about the nra's propos. >> the public wants guns out of the schools, not in and they're not asking for a security official or someone else. i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that
is this just playing up to the nra or a plausible solution? >> it's certain ly not a plausible solution, but the problem is, there are no plausible solutions. there's a guy, a criminalnologist who wrote a great piece about this. the thing with mass shootings, these guys are well prepared. and so, the idea from the right that you're dpoipg going to arm politician official, have them at every school is false and the idea on the left that you're going to eliminate guns, that's also false....
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whitlock went on to call the nra, quote, the new kkk. that, of course, is insane. the only reason anybody ever heard about it is because bob costas mentioned whitlock in his gun commentary on nbc. so we called this whitlock guy and invited him on the factor. here's what he wrote, quote. i was summoned to testify before speaker of the big house, bill o'reilly, the fox news entertainer. i don't have to shuffle off to the big house when summoned. o'reilly is not boehner, pelosi, or obama. he's tv intertainer who spent the weeks after the election crying about the end of white establishment america. the end of the days when an upstanding white man felt entitled to summon whomever he wanted whenever he wanted to the big house to dance. i don't dance, unquote. now, that is pure racism. nothing else. whitlock implying that i'm some kind of slave overlord, and he gets away with that kind of garbage. in fact, he gets paid to spout. way beyond disgraceful. that's poison but not unusual. hate speech now happening all the time. there comes a point when all good people must say
whitlock went on to call the nra, quote, the new kkk. that, of course, is insane. the only reason anybody ever heard about it is because bob costas mentioned whitlock in his gun commentary on nbc. so we called this whitlock guy and invited him on the factor. here's what he wrote, quote. i was summoned to testify before speaker of the big house, bill o'reilly, the fox news entertainer. i don't have to shuffle off to the big house when summoned. o'reilly is not boehner, pelosi, or obama. he's tv...
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the nra twitter feed has gone silent and the nra headquarters reportedly shut down its switchboard friday and didn't return e-mails for comment. the only somethithing the nra s no comment. that's exactly what they said after the tragic shootings at an aurora movie theater this summer that left 12 people dead. the nra's silence at this critical moment is shameful and telling. and more and more, politicians are calling them out. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. there's this myth that the nra is so powerful, you go back to what happened when the democrats lost after the assault weapons ban, i don't know that you can. they want to stop this carnage. >> the american people do want to stop the carnage. the nra may not be talking. but we'll all have to make them listen. joining me now is a congressman from the brady campaign. he's also a survivor from the virginia tech shooting in 2007 when he was shot four times by a lone gunman who killed 32 people. and dana millbank, columnist from the washington post. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thank yo
the nra twitter feed has gone silent and the nra headquarters reportedly shut down its switchboard friday and didn't return e-mails for comment. the only somethithing the nra s no comment. that's exactly what they said after the tragic shootings at an aurora movie theater this summer that left 12 people dead. the nra's silence at this critical moment is shameful and telling. and more and more, politicians are calling them out. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is...
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an obvious reference there to the nra. there were no supported senators of the nra that would go on "meet the press" this weekend. the nra has been oddly mum in this, telling nbc news they want to wait to remark on this until more facts come to light. but as you pointed out in a recent editorial yourself, as we look back on the assault weapons ban between 1994 and 2004, we saw such a decrease in the amount of gun crimes in this country, yet we let that lapse. we got away from it. how easy is it going to be to utilize what is -- the knowledge that's coming out of this tragedy in newtown to revisit that and get something done? >> i would never say doing anything in washington is easy at all. look, we are going to have to do something. i'm not a huge fan actually of the assault weapons ban. this gets to something broader i think that needs to be talked about. we need to do something. we need action. you keep hearing that. we also need to do the right thing. we need things that will actually help the assault weapons ban, i don
an obvious reference there to the nra. there were no supported senators of the nra that would go on "meet the press" this weekend. the nra has been oddly mum in this, telling nbc news they want to wait to remark on this until more facts come to light. but as you pointed out in a recent editorial yourself, as we look back on the assault weapons ban between 1994 and 2004, we saw such a decrease in the amount of gun crimes in this country, yet we let that lapse. we got away from it. how...
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>> the nra, this isn't new stuff. the nra, a high ranking official, said as much in 1990, that this is not about defense or this is not about hunting. this is not just about defense of the home, and we should be honest about that. this is about protecting ourselves from the government if we ever need to. >> you know, mayor nutter, michael nutter, i'm very proud to have him on, mayor nutter. the idea of the constitution which we can read, it's right in there, you have a right to have a musket because you have to be of a militia. militias are the people who are supposed to be carrying out the public order, protecting domestic tranquility, not creating trouble. they're supposed to be helping to protect against. these guys, these nuts come on and say i need my gun to fight my government. >> yeah. no, that's the police department, your state police, the national guard, and under -- i can't even imagine the circumstance. that's why we have the army. this is -- it's an absurdity, quite frankly, and the wonderful thing about
>> the nra, this isn't new stuff. the nra, a high ranking official, said as much in 1990, that this is not about defense or this is not about hunting. this is not just about defense of the home, and we should be honest about that. this is about protecting ourselves from the government if we ever need to. >> you know, mayor nutter, michael nutter, i'm very proud to have him on, mayor nutter. the idea of the constitution which we can read, it's right in there, you have a right to have...
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the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. a res, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. [ male announcer ] when diarrhea hits, kaopectate stops it fast. powerful liquid relief speeds to the source. fast. [ male announcer ] stop the uh-oh fast with kaopectate. >>> a morning show usually sounds like a fraternity show. after the sandy hoo
the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. a res, try...
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if you stop this from ever happening again. >> it is a problem for the nra. the debate about the guns used in this shooting, don't fit the definition of the kinds of guns we talk about banning. there comes a point in the public discussion that is so emotional where facts take a back seat and i don't know how the nra deals with that. that is why i say i am not sure talking now as the voice of the industry will get you anywhere. >> they could say things like the president has sent up this task force to look into it. >> a task force? the media won't said that. stuart: the president proposed this and set it up. >> when i say we want to be part of the solution, not give an answer but we want to work with the vice president and the president to come of with the solution. stuart: did charles: 1 to look like they're negotiating? we want to go -- they come out and say we're going to reverse ourselves on certain things and we do agree a certain type of weapon should be -- >> is premature. [talking over each other] >> don't blame them of the show you are willing to deal
if you stop this from ever happening again. >> it is a problem for the nra. the debate about the guns used in this shooting, don't fit the definition of the kinds of guns we talk about banning. there comes a point in the public discussion that is so emotional where facts take a back seat and i don't know how the nra deals with that. that is why i say i am not sure talking now as the voice of the industry will get you anywhere. >> they could say things like the president has sent up...
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the nra builds on that role. it's this notion of the individual american who protects himself, who provides for himself, who joins the nra and says, my guns are the bottom line. the reality is, that the people who pay the cost of our romance with guns, the fact that the united states is awash in guns are not the people out in rural arkansas or utah or nevada who are card carrying members of the nra. they're young, black men in the inner city. they're the ones who died from gun homicide and have much higher rates than young, white men. >> you wrote a brilliant piece after the movie theater shooting in colorado saying, in 2008 and 2009, gun homicide was the leading cause of death for young black men. they died from gun violence mainly at the hands of other black males at a rate of eight times that of other young white males. all tragedies justifiably spark horror. the nra is not the only meaningful obstacle to reform. unfortunately, violence like this in the black community just doesn't get as much attention, or in
the nra builds on that role. it's this notion of the individual american who protects himself, who provides for himself, who joins the nra and says, my guns are the bottom line. the reality is, that the people who pay the cost of our romance with guns, the fact that the united states is awash in guns are not the people out in rural arkansas or utah or nevada who are card carrying members of the nra. they're young, black men in the inner city. they're the ones who died from gun homicide and have...